Comments on: Greg Ellis: Should He Stay Or Should He Go?

By: Joe D.

Joe D. — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:07:35 +0000

Cowboy Bill – You are absolutely right and sometimes I let my raw emotion get in the way of my better logic. Ellis does have value, but I’ve seen this done plenty of times where a team releases a player only to renegotiate a lower salary. Maybe we can do something like that, if not a trade.
Nate – If we pulled that off, our defense would be the best in the NFL for next five years!

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By: Cowboy Bill

Cowboy Bill — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:20:00 +0000

I don’t see Ellis as used up but he is on the down side of his career. I still see tremendous upside to keeping him. The cap hit is huge but that’s part of signing these guys when they’re performing at their best. He had 8 sacks which isn’t bad for a LB.
I’m not thrilled with the way he tries to play “coach” all the time. He over steps his bounds when talking about the staff and decisions being made.
Trade maybe… release? That would be a MISTAKE. Not enough depth at the position.

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By: Tiffany (Stargazzing)

Tiffany (Stargazzing) — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:25:03 +0000

Loved Ellis “back in the day”. Still like the guy but I think he’s used up. Save the cap!

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By: nate

nate — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:00:58 +0000

joe-
yesterday i did a couple of mock drafts with trading ellis the main focus. the first is a monster of a trade involving 6 picks and ellis for a 2nd round pick and the second mock goes by scout.com’s guidelines as far as player projections go. ill post them in order here:
ELLIS TRADE MOCK
Trade picks 69, 101, Greg Ellis (valued at approx. cleveland’s 4th round pick at 104), 117, 156, 197 & 227 for Cleveland’s 37
DRAFT:
(2) 37. Clint Sintim OLB Virginia
(2) 51. William Moore SS Missouri
(5) 166. Worrell Williams ILB California
(5 comp.) 172. Alex Boone OT Ohio State
(6 comp.) 208. Cullen Harper QB Clemson
(7) 210. Dallas Reynolds C/OG/ROT BYU
pick trade values:
37=530
51=390
69=245
101=96
104=86
117=60
156=29
166=25
197=12.6
210=7.4
227=1
Scout.com Projection Mock
51. Ron Brace DT Boston College
69. Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech
101. Tyrone McKenzie OLB South Florida
117. Mike Hamlin SS Clemson
156. Jason Phillips ILB TCU
166. Curtis Taylor FS LSU
172. Alex Boone OT Ohio State
197. Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin
208. Jasper Brinkley ILB South Carolina
210. Tom Brandstater QB Fresno State
227. Louis Vasquez OG Texas Tech
1) Brace slides Ratliff to right end and makes Spears trade bait in his last contract year
2) McKenzie takes Ellis’ backup spot behind Spencer and puts Ellis on trade block also in his last contract year
3)Phillips plays nickel linebacker in place of Brooking on passing downs and Brinkley replaces Carpenter to back up James putting Barbie on the trade block.
4) Taylor puts the oft injured Watkins out of a job. Competes with Courtney Brown to backup Hamlin.
5) Boone puts either Free or Mcquistan on the trading block.
6) Urbik and Vasquez replace either Kosier or Holland and Procter. One must be able to play center and guard and the other must be a solid backup on the left side. Procter and Holland or Kosier go on the trading block with one year left on all of their contracts.
Spears, Ellis, Carpenter, Brown, Free or McQuistan, Kosier or Holland and Procter are all on the trading block. Should be able to stock pile more picks for next year.

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By: Joe D.

Joe D. — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:32:36 +0000

It’s definitely not worth the hit. His performance last season was already down from the year before. He is in obvious steep decline. Ware made just 2.1 million last season! Ellis will cost 6.25 million, do the math! Trade or release Ellis.

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By: Joel G

Joel G — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:07:04 +0000

Good statements, even thought I love Ellis hard work and commitment to the Dallas Cowboys. I have seen a desire of discipline comming from him to stay as a cowboy with his on going conriversy over the past two years. I also believe of our young up coming star calliber that can replace him and that would be Anthony Spencer. Thanks for the years of service and wish you the best this year and that you will be able to retire with a ring.
GO COWBOYS!!

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